How to Get Into Stanford: My Admissions Journey

Interested in Stanford, one of the best colleges in the US? Current Stanford student and CollegeAdvisor Admissions Expert Henry Shen gives insight into his admissions journey and why he ultimately selected Stanford for his undergraduate career. You won’t want to miss this 60-minute webinar and Q&A session.

Date 03/27/2022
Duration 1:04:46

Webinar Transcription

2022-03-28 How to Get Into Stanford: My Admissions Journey


hi everyone. Welcome to CollegeAdvisor’s webinar on How to Get Into Stanford: My Admissions Journey. To orient everyone with the webinar timing, we’ll start up with the presentation, then answer your questions in live Q and a on the sidebar. You can download our slides and you can start submitting your questions in the Q and a tab.

Now let’s, let’s meet our panelist. Yeah. Hi everyone. I’m Henry. I’m currently a sophomore at Stanford where I’m studying symbolic systems. Um, this is basically a mix of like computer science with one other humanities subject. I haven’t picked that yet, but I will. Um, I’m originally from Tennessee and in high school, I was really involved in like a variety of things like stem music, leadership, athletics.

Um, but in college I focused more, um, on things that I wanted to continue. So I’m in our school’s consulting group, um, club figure skating, and I do, uh, work with like LGBTQ plus and business outreach through the program called.

So to start off the presentation, we’re going to start off with a [00:01:00] quick poll. So what grade are you currently in? Eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th, 12th, and other, and other can be if you’re a transfer student or taking a gap year, or if you’re a current college student on the call or a parent. And while we wait for those questions to roll in, uh, Henry, can you tell us, uh, maybe, uh, like what your favorite event is at Stanford? My favorite event?

Um, that is tough. Um, I would say one, my favorite event is actually one that I haven’t been to. It’s like admin weekend. I think it’s just like in high school, I had something else happening during that time and COVID happened my freshman year when we were on campus, but, um, it’s a really exciting time. Like all the admins come in and, um, you get hosted and dorms and you get to like tour around campus and super fun.

I’m really excited to see how it goes. He has, I am excited to see those coming back. I feel bad for our class and the classes before, but I really do. [00:02:00] It was a great experience. Uh, so it’s looking like we have 3%, eighth graders, 8%, ninth graders, 45% 10th graders making up the majority, uh, 11, uh, 32% 11th graders, zero of seniors, and then 13% other and you can get those slides.

Okay, awesome. Um, so I’m going to go ahead and just talk about my college college experience at Stanford so far. Um, I think I can sum it up in like three points. So the first is it’s been very interdisciplinary. That’s one thing that Stanford does a really great job of is, is that like, if you have multiple different interests that maybe you think don’t combine well, Stanford will find a way for you to combine them and happen to really mesh well together.

Uh, so for example, in my major symbolic systems, Doing computer science. Yes. But, um, I can also like pursue music, biology, anything I want to do through like the other half of the measure, basically. So it’s like literally interdisciplinary. We you’re combining disciplines. Um, same thing goes for like clubs, events.

[00:03:00] There are so many opportunities and basically there’s something for everybody here. Uh, second point it is so engaging. Um, I would speak specifically to classes. We have this type of class called an introductory seminar where it’s basically a really, really small, like seminar based discussion class with a renowned professor.

Like these people are insane. So like freshman year I took a class on, um, growth mindset with this psychologist who found a growth mindset, Carol Dweck, which was just incredible. And then thirdly, it’s really supportive here. Like people, I think there’s. Stereotypes of a lot of colleges having like competitive or kind of like toxic academic cultures.

But, uh, I really haven’t seen that at all here. It’s easy to build a network of peers. There’s like so many resources that you need help with academics with anything. Um, it’s a very like open culture. Um, it’s gonna jump to the next slide. So I know you all are all at different points in your being at Democrates thinking about when you want to start thinking about college admissions.

But for me, I would say I [00:04:00] started about at, about the end of my sophomore year. Um, but one point to that is that throughout high school, I focused on just pursuing what I like to do and trying to be as, you know, trying to pursue it as well as I could. Um, I started focusing more on like college admissions, specifically, like probably late junior, senior year.

And when I say focus, I mean like things like planning, essays, talking to students, like, so, you know, trying to figure out like where I wanted to go and what I wanted to write about presented by myself. Um, but I would say the. Biggest thing for me was in high school, pursuing my passions, helping me find the most success out of anything.

Um, I think like starting off in high school, I was definitely confused. I was maybe doing somethings because I wanted to do it for college admissions, but as I grew older and kept, um, kept up with certain things, like I just realized doing what I liked, science, music, entertainment, like that type of thing.

That’s what really clicked with me. And it ultimately led me to success in college admissions. So, um, I think really [00:05:00] important point to note there. So factors for me, um, and sort of like, I guess, uh, why I chose Stanford, um, and my process, I really wanted to be on the west coast. So I applied, I think like seven or eight schools.

Okay. Five of them were in California. Like I really, I really wanted to go to California. I knew this. Um, and that was my, that was just my decision. Everyone’s different in that. Um, secondly, it was the culture I wanted somewhere that’s that was very like fun loving, kind of like open carefree, but still had that super like intellectual academic focus where everyone’s like, kind of has their thing that they really love doing.

That’s like academic or not, but just something that they’re really like into. Um, and third was opportunity, um, you know, going into college. I don’t think I was like super, um, aware of like what I wanted to, where I wanted to be like five years or 10 years down the line, like career wise, especially. So I wanted somewhere that would help.

Enter any field when I think Stanford’s like a perfect place for that. Um, [00:06:00] you know, there’s obviously like a big Silicon valley, like tech, um, bounty of opportunity here, but really anything you want to go into like academia, academia, um, consulting, finance, humanities, like writing really anything. There’s so many opportunities here and, you know, at a lot of schools for, for anyone or anything you want to do.

So I can talk a little bit about how I like quote unquote, like stood out in the application process. I would say I, um, had to relate to, they call them like spikes. Mine were probably biology and music. So in terms of biology, I was a national finalist in the USA biology Olympiad. So I was, um, one of like 20 people who advanced this like final round of, um, a biology competition.

Uh, and then for, I also did a program called science full, which is a team-based science competition. Um, so my team. And advanced to the nationals. Um, I think like three times, and I was the captain, um, the two out of those three times, [00:07:00] and then on the music side, I did a lot of like piano and also like violin competitions and just played a lot.

I love to compose. Um, so that was something that I sort of did like very separately from the stem side of me. Um, and that, I think also like helped me be like a good fit for the school for Stanford on just having this like sort of interdisciplinary set of interests, like music plus stem, you know, plus other things like it kind of meshes well with like the Stanford culture.

Um, and I think also being like queer and from the south gave me like a kind of unique experience that I was able to talk about in, um, my essays and, um, you know, like it was something that I was, um, that just gave me like personal experiences that I think added like dimension to my application past just, you know, stem or music or anything, uh, more like academic.

Yeah. And so my obligation strategy, I would say, I want it to be like, as [00:08:00] authentically as possible in the, during the college admissions process, I was genuinely looking for a school where I would be a fit, um, and not like, you know, I, as in me authentically not, you know, someone that I was trying to present a different person on paper.

So I wrote about whatever I wanted, literally, no matter how, like strange or controversial it was. So I wrote about Nicki Minaj and my Stanford essay wrote about, you know, queerness from a scientific perspective. I wrote about my great-grandparents like living through the communist revolution in China.

Like there is kind of just like a very broad mix of things, just everything that makes me kind of, um, and I think I also, this was part of my like strategy per se, because it contrasted well with just, um, the way that I was academically engaged and my background in like stem in music, like added like dimension and sort of more of like.

Larger like whole person to the application. Um, I also talked to as many people as I could, um, just getting like essay, feedback, advice, and interviews. I was kind of, you know, going to, going to like [00:09:00] a school in Tennessee and like a more rural area. I wasn’t like super, I didn’t have like, you know, counselors and a bunch of resources readily available to me.

So, um, it was really like up to me in that sense to sort of like personally go out and look for resources. Um, and it was like obviously really extra motivating, um, because Stanford was my top choice and I had time to like focus pretty much only on applying to Stanford because I applied during their, um, application.

Right. Yes. So now we’re gonna do another quick poll. So where are you in the application process? Haven’t started on researching schools. I’m working on my essays. I’m getting my application materials together, or if you’re really lucky, I’m almost done. And while we wait for those questions to roll in Henry, can you tell us a bit about, um, how you go about helping your own clients with like really getting their personal narrative together?

Yeah. I think the, if I could sum it up, it would be to do like a deep dive into their interests [00:10:00] and not only their interests, but why they’re interested in them. Like sort of it’s, it’s about building a story. So when we’re, when I’m working with students on essays, I’m trying to find like, you know, not only like, what is it that you do, but what is a story around this and how can we like turn it into sort of a narrative about you, um, your life, you as a person connected to like a larger picture.

Definitely. I really love that approach, really bringing out people’s identities and really making it personal. And cause a lot of students do tend to focus on like, how can I stand out? But then they try and get the perfect essay that admissions offices are looking for, which you kind of is counterintuitive to standing out.

Um, so it’s looking like 29% haven’t started. 63% are researching schools. 2% are working on their essays. Another 2% are getting their application with us together. And 4%, the lucky few are almost done, almost done in March. That’s honestly like props to you. That’s [00:11:00] incredible. Okay. Um, so just talking a little bit more about, um, aspects of my application that I thought were the most successful for a disclaimer.

I did read my like admissions file. So if you want to ask questions about that on during the Q and a please feel free. Um, but I’d say again, it was those two, like maybe. Um, quote unquote like spikes, so stem doing biology, wouldn’t be out and having, um, like a national award there along with science school and then in music, um, just having, not like any national words, but I had sort of like a more, just broad like involvement in it.

So I did like also the orchestra, I submitted a piano performance portfolio. I did, you know, piano and violin competitions, um, throughout high school. So I think those two things sort of like came together and really good, good, like good interdisciplinary mix to help a lot. And yeah, ask me about my admissions file if you, if you would like to know anything.

Um, but more generally what I think makes for like a [00:12:00] good or successful Stanford application is a mix of intellectual brutality self-drive and kindness. And I would, you know, I think intellectual totality is like, it’s something Stanford emphasizes specifically in its, um, in its application, but it’s essentially just.

The internal motivation to like want to pursue some kind of intellectual interests. It doesn’t have to be like academic. It doesn’t have to be stem. It doesn’t have to be anything really. It just has to be something that you are like really obsessed with and you are self motivated to go out and, you know, think about, look into like pursue activities in that.

Um, secondly, I would say like, this is, this more depends on your personal situation, but there are like certain admissions boxes you may want to check. So like just having a test scores and the general range of the school, um, having taken like rigorous classes in high school, sort of things that will allow the admissions [00:13:00] officers to focus more on who you are as a person, rather than whether they think you’ll be able to like handle yourself academically at the school.

And this obviously depends on everyone has different resources in high school and growing up, everyone comes from different situations. So like, um, this varies based on basically your background, but, um, offered to, depending on your situation, I would say like it’s important to check certain, just admissions boxes.

And then thirdly, this is more of like a, um, essay topic, but it’s this question of like the roommate Chuck, like, would the person reading your application. One of your roommate, um, and why you want to be your classmate, like want to have you as a peer at the school, um, in Sanford, after you literally includes us in the application through, um, an essay prompt wishes to write a letter to your future roommate.

So this is more just about general, like personability, maybe making your essays like, um, more like casual or just very like you like very authentically you, I think is like the key to success. [00:14:00] Great. So that is the end of the presentation part of the webinar. I hope you found this information helpful and remember that you can download the slide from the link in the handouts tab, moving on to the live Q and a I’ll read through your questions.

You submitted in the Q and a tab, and then read them aloud before a panelist gives you an answer as a heads up. If your, um, if your Q and a tab, isn’t letting you submit questions, just make sure that you join the webinar through the custom link sent to your email and not from the webinar landing page or the website.

If you joined through the website, um, you won’t get all the features that big markers. So just make sure you joined through that custom link send to your email. Okay. So starting off, our first question is, is Stanford test optional for fall 2023 applicants? And if I’m the person decides not to submit the test scores, what that affect their chances of being accepted?

Yeah. So let me actually look into this right now. I looked at up that they are not test-optional. You have to submit your scores. Gotcha. Okay. So yeah, there, there you go. Yeah, I guess that, that answers the [00:15:00] question. But, um, I would say in general for test scores, like applied to the school, if you really want to go to this school, um, regardless of your test scores, like please, you know, put yourself into the application.

And, um, if it works out, we will work out definitely, uh, going on from that, there was a question, the pre pedal that’s kind of similar. So a student was asking about, um, they didn’t have a very strong GPA and, um, there, or it was either they didn’t have a strong GPA or a strong test scores, and those are usually common questions.

Um, would that affect their chance of getting in and what sort of things can they do to sort of compensate for that in the rest of their application? Yeah. So I would say there’s two, like big ways you can sort of work with that in your application. The first is through your essays. Um, you want to like really provide like a personal dive, just individually, all your life.

Like make sure essays are very, very much. You, and well-written [00:16:00] worked really hard on those. Um, and then I would also say like, there is, if there is any kind of like external factors that affected your GPA, or like maybe cause you to have like a hard sophomore year hard sophomore, winter, like any kind of, any type of like, um, personal, just stress you can write about that.

And, um, what’s called like an additional information section. So in the common obligation, that’s like a great spot. And if you had something personal going on on what maybe made school harder for you during that time, that’s what you want to write about that. Um, but I’d say in general, like going into senior year, like you have the GPA you have, you have the test scores, you have like, it’s really important to just focus on like, where do you want to do at school?

And like, who are you? What have you been doing for these last few years? And like putting that on paper and sort of telling your story, um, more so than like, I wouldn’t worry too much about test scores, honestly. Like if a school is a good fit for you, you will find, find that out regardless of your. And going off of that, school’s post their [00:17:00] average or the range of averages of test scores of their recently admitted costs.

And usually those are in the high end, especially for top schools, but keep in mind that it is an average, that means that students got in what scores higher than that. And also students got, uh, to those schools, um, what scores lower than that. So test scores, aren’t those strongest or the most important aspect of your application.

It’s really a holistic view onto the next question a student is asking prior to being at Stanford. Did you live in California? And he did say you lived in Tennessee. So can you just talk about what made you sort of choose the location and how that can factor into students’ um, decisions? Yeah, for sure.

So I did not live in California. I did, um, brief stay in like San Diego for like summer camps and stuff like that. But, um, for me, like why I wanted to go to California was the. Like, obviously there’s like great things. Like the weather is here, the food is great. Um, but there’s like a very like [00:18:00] open sort of like free thinking culture, um, where people like want to share ideas, like want to be collaborative.

And that’s what I really, really wanted to, um, you know, be a part of during my college experience. Yeah. I should have thought harder about whether I’m choosing to come to. I came from Georgia. So the cold weather is really, I’m not working for me right now. It’s a great school, but the weather does become a factor after a certain point, too much snow.

Um, going on. Um, okay. Uh, going on to the next question, um, what kind of extracurricular activities is Stanford looking at? Yeah. So I wouldn’t say there’s anything they’re specifically looking for. Um, more generally in your extra curriculars. What they’re looking for is that you have self-motivation self-drive to do, to pursue something that you really like to do.

And, [00:19:00] um, you don’t necessarily have to like win awards or anything in there, but those can help. Um, but more so it’s about, um, having something, either in your essays or in your awards or just in your extra extracurriculars, like activity, section something where you can write about like how you took your own motivation to like work towards something, um, or pursue, you know, whatever interest is you have, you may like really love baking.

So why not start like a baking blog or something like that? Maybe you really like math, so you can do like math competitions or do you like math research? There’s like so many different interests you can have. So I would say, especially at Stanford, they’re actually like probably looking more for like people who are like quirky and maybe don’t fit into your like standard, you know, academic.

Bubbles and competitions and stuff like that. So it’s more, really more about how you like personally taken the self-drive to like pursue your interests. And just another quick note, another student asked about the testing policy on the website. It says that for transfer students or students applying now, [00:20:00] so transfer students that are already in college or students applying in the 2021 to 2022 cycle, which already passed, or the 20, 22 to 2023 cycle, which is the one coming up for current yeah.

Current, um, juniors about to be seniors that are going to be applying. Those do have test optional, but everyone after that is not, I believe that’s what it about. Um, so yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, um, anyone that is a current. A rising senior we’ll have test optional everyone below, behind you is not going to be test optional from what it looks like, if that makes sense.

Um, okay. So a lot of students are really wanting to know more about your, what you did in high school and really what you did in the summer and what you did in school and how that really helped you. You did talk about it a bit, but I really want to know some more details about what you were doing in high school.

So maybe even include classes you took. Yeah, for sure. I can. Um, okay. This is a while ago, so apologies if some like memories that [00:21:00] are happening, but, um, I can just walk through like what I did here by years. So, um, freshman year I came in, I had been doing science school and middle school, so I continued that and joined, um, our like science book club.

And then I had a really wonderful teacher Fishman year. She was retiring. So she kind of. Give me a little of her like class materials, like textbooks and stuff that were in her room. And so I being like just a nerd, just like read them. Um, and so that year I, um, self studied for the AP biology exam. And I also took the, um, USA biology, Olympiad, like open first round exam for the first time and ended up qualifying for the semi final exam, which is like the top 10% I think, of the open exam or something.

Um, and so that like made me interested in like wanting to keep pursuing biology. I mean, kind of, you know, I already had like read a bunch of biology textbooks. I was like, oh, I should just keep this like fun. And I’ve done it for a while now. Um, so sophomore year I continued with [00:22:00] it qualified for many finals again.

Um, and that year ended up going to national science bowl and winning our state like science book competition for the first time. Um, and then class-wise, I took, I think like three or four AP exams or AP classes. Um, self studied a few more AP exams that year. Um, and then junior year was I think like I was taking I’m pretty sure I was taking like all AP classes at that point.

It was actually my lightest academic year. Surprisingly, um, don’t know how that happened, but, um, that year I also started doing a summer and school research program through a class that we had called thesis. Um, so this was just something that I had in my high school. Um, we were Oak Ridge high school, so we were right next to Oak Ridge national laboratory.

Um, so we had like a program and the connections there were like students could actually work at the lab. So during the summer, before junior year, I was working at the lab. On a computational [00:23:00] biology project. And then throughout the year, I’ve continued to like going to the lab, working on, um, writing a research paper.

And then junior year, I also qualified for the, um, biology biology with the on national finals for the first time. So I was in that group of 20, um, we went to San Diego for like the finals training program in competition, um, which was a lot of fun. And then, uh, qualified for national finals or sorry, national science school for the second time junior year, junior year, and then senior year.

Um, I was like applying to colleges during the fall. Um, my class schedule was like a little bit lighter, so the way my school worked, we had like, um, like graduation requirement classes, like the music’s like that, uh, wellness. So I took those my senior year, um, just to, you know, a bit more of like a little time.

And then, um, Science. Well, we went to nationals again. Um, I finished writing my research paper for the research I’ve been doing at the national [00:24:00] lab. Um, actually started working at a different lab. Um, that was like an actual like laboratory. So not computational. It was like working with actual equipment and stuff, which is a lot of fun during my senior year.

And then, um, ended up qualifying for national finals for the biological yet a second time. And then I went to the international competition after the finals, um, having made the, uh, U S team that year. So that was like, uh, that was very like stem focused. It’s kind of hard to talk about other stuff. I did, um, Virginia high school.

I was also, um, I was in cross country for the first three years or sorry, in cross country for all four years track were the first three and then I played tennis my foot or my senior year in school. Yeah. I’m like, I’m like just jogging my memory. This. Oh, wow. Okay. You had a very balanced, well, maybe not balanced, but a well-rounded application.

Um, can you talk a bit about how having all these different clubs and [00:25:00] awards and competitions really helped you and then also, um, any advice for students that are stressing about, uh, maybe not having those qualifications or what they can do? Absolutely. Yeah. So I would say like, for me, um, especially coming from Tennessee, like not a place, I think in my grade, there’s maybe like three or four people from Tennessee at Stanford.

So it’s not really a place where like, Stanford’s really like expecting a lot of people to come from. So having like an award, like the biological of yards, like national finals that, um, sort of. Speaks, regardless of the state leg is national. And, um, where like a lot of people in that program, you end up going to Stanford or like some of the schools, um, that definitely helped set me apart coming from, uh, like a less, you know, admissions, maybe less like important area for the Stanford, like emissions, uh, office to focus on.

Um, I’d [00:26:00] say like, that was my admission story. And, you know, I had like, definitely a lot of stuff that I was like super proud of in high school, but, um, everyone is totally different. Like most people here did not do some kind of like national theater or anything, you know, they did like, or anything like super like stem focused or anything like that.

That was just me. People here like incredibly different. Like we have people who just really love to write. So they were like writing, you know, they’re like writing blogs, writing books, anything like that. People who like love to, so they were doing debate, like there’s so many different ways that you can just show that you have like a specific, you know, really strong interests that you love to do.

Mine just happened to be biology in high school. And that was the way I pursued that. But I’d say it’s really about like how you present yourself and the work you’ve done in the interests. You have more so even than like specific accomplishments that you’ve like earned along the way. So I wouldn’t worry too much about like, having, like doing a competition or anything like that.

That was [00:27:00] just my personal, um, story and like what I was interested in at the time, but absolutely honestly, And also in terms of like taking courses. Cause there were some kids asking about IB in the pre panel, um, taking courses, uh, you’re not judged based on like whether every other applicant is taking like 20 AP classes and all of the IB courses you’re compared to what the average student at your school is doing.

And this also includes GPA. So like if the average GPA at your school is a 3.0 and you have higher than that, where you have that grade, then you’ll look like a good student. Um, if your school is really hard and you can’t get a straight 4.0 at your school, um, Well, you’re a school counselor. We’ll send them the demographic information about your school, what other average students are doing, and they will compare you to that.

You’re not being compared to a student that goes to a school with a bunch of resources. So it is a bit more fair in that aspect. Um, and there are more webinars that go over that if [00:28:00] you wanted more information. And also Henry, if you see any questions in the chat that you really want to answer, please feel free to just read it out loud and answer it, or you can like, um, type the person.

Um, okay. Uh, but going onto the next question, another, student’s asking about time management. So how were you able to balance AP classes and get great, get good grades? And do you have any study tips or ways to prepare? Yeah, for sure. So I’m going to like a high school in Tennessee. Our AP classes were not super rigorous.

We did have certain. Specific teachers that were really great and prepared students super well. But, um, I’d say in general, like if you’re looking at like, you know, comparing to like a bay area school or a New York school, like an AP class at my high school and had those will look very different and have a very different like time requirement to them.

So I would say I’m not the best person to ask about like how to manage a class load with extracurriculars. I actually had like a decently light, um, academic load, um, because of the school I went to [00:29:00] for AP exams. I honestly, like I still studied for quite a few AP exams in high school. And I would say like, um, my biggest piece of advice would be to like trust and learn like one good, you know, AP like prep book for that exam.

Um, there’s really like no special sugar or anything. What I did was literally just read through it, take notes, um, and then do some practice tests to see if I like understood the material. Um, and that. For like time management in general for extra curriculars. I, um, I’m trying to think back on like my specifically what I did, but, um, I’d say like, mainly for me it was about like having sort of like a routine and a schedule.

Um, so I would have like school and then I’d have like cross country practice and then I’d have the rest of the day free to like, do homework if I had any homework or, um, work [00:30:00] on like extracurriculars, which is honestly like what I loved much more doing. Um, so I think like just having like a schedule where you’re, where, you know, you’ll have times like that and the things that, um, you want to do, like outside of school for your extracurriculars is like super, super important.

Um, And I would also remember that like a lot of things are like sort of seasonal, like sports competitions, like programs, a lot of these things aren’t happening like year round. So like maybe planning, um, planning your schedule so that you have like, maybe you’re doing like a sport this season, then you can focus more on like another thing the next, you know, in the next few months, that type of thing can really help.

And I think that helped you as well. And going off of that, how did your credit from your AP classes transfer to Stanford transfer to Stanford? Yeah. So I’m like in the process of working that out right now, um, Generally like schools will have like a page where they [00:31:00] show you where they just tell you literally like what classes you can run AP credits, you can transfer into, uh, replacing classes.

So for me, um, I needed to replace, like, I did not want to take physics or chemistry, so I was able to like, get those credits transferred. And then it’s just a very like simple process. You basically just fill out a form with your AP scores and, um, you get those, uh, classes as credits. And the good thing is that, um, at Stanford, like you get the full as if you took the actual college class credit from your AP.

So, um, that helps a lot, both filling, like. You’re like unit requirements for graduation. Um, but also like getting, you know, like an entire, like hard physics or chemistry class or something like that out of the way is super helpful. Definitely that policy sounds a lot better than most schools. Um, different schools have different policies for AP IB.

And then also if your state has it dual enrollment or move on when ready, depending on what they call it, um, really do look into those schools requirements. Um, so you can see what courses you may or may not want to take while you’re. [00:32:00] And then also, um, think of it strategically about it. Some schools will give you, as Henry said, um, they’ll give you the credit, um, for a full course, which is really great.

Other schools will not give you credit for like say a freshman writing class for your AP English, but they’ll allow you to bump up to sophomore English. So it’s like, you won’t have that credit on your transcript necessarily in college, but you will be able to just bump up to the next level or you maybe get put into an honors course.

Um, getting the credit is definitely the better option because that saves money and time with how many credits you have to get to graduate. Um, but moving up a level can be helpful depending on. I would really think about whether or not you understood your AP or IB or whatever course you took in high school before I’m choosing to do that.

I’m going up a level. I’m like, if you didn’t feel that comfortable in high school, maybe don’t skip to the next level in college. Just don’t take the credit for it. It’s not the end of the world. Really AP and IB courses are just to help prepare you and even open the [00:33:00] door. Some schools don’t provide credit also like I’m at Cornell.

And, um, regardless of what score you get, most classes you can’t get out of, um, uh, with AP or IB credits. So it doesn’t really matter. It just looks good on your application that you took such courses or took rigorous courses while you’re in high school. So, um, and then dual enrollment is its own thing.

Like some schools don’t accept, uh, dual enrollment credits from other states. So dual enrollment is a bit better if you’re staying in Spain. Um, there are a lot of stipulations for that’s really watch our other webinars on AP, IB and all these other courses. And Henry, did you have anything else to add? Um, I will say for Stanford, I think they’re pretty good about accepting dual enrollment credits.

I wish I knew this before. I took linear algebra for the second time in college, but, um, you can, you can transfer like, um, like community college or dual credit and super definitely. And then also with those dual enrollments, make sure that you really are taking them serious because they are real college courses and most transfer those credits do [00:34:00] transfer with the grades that your GPA will be affected.

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All right. On our website. Okay. Now going into the next question, another student’s asking at Stanford how accessible is getting information, whether it’s about financial aid or tutoring or sports, or even like accommodations for students. Super accessible. Um, we have, [00:35:00] every student has an academic academic advising director here, um, who can like, essentially works to connecting you to those specific resources.

So you don’t have to like look into them yourself. So, um, like a lot of students have like, um, accommodations through the office of accessible education. Like, um, if you want to like, look into club sports and stuff like that, your academic advisor can help you. You can also like talk to our AEs, other students, other students, like everyone’s like sort of super open to sharing information, which I think is which I think is awesome.

Um, so yeah, I’d say like, information is super accessible. Like if you can’t find it online through just like searching it, um, there’s always going to be someone here who can leave. Definitely, especially at smallish. Well, Stanford is a larger school, but smaller schools do tend to have better reports on like advisers.

Cause you get a bit more personal time with them, but even at larger schools like Stanford or even Cornell, you can find some pretty great academic advisors. And so that may be something you want to factor in into your school search. Um, [00:36:00] personally, I do have a good academic advisor right now, but I have heard stories and I have personally met with some advisors that aren’t the greatest.

So if you do end up in that situation or you are in that situation, even in high school, always look for people that are out to support you. Um, They are like, eh, like, okay. For example, one of my students was told not to apply to a certain program because the teacher, whoever didn’t think they’d get in that isn’t a helpful person, a helpful person may say that it’s going to be difficult for you to get into a certain score program, but we’ll help you navigate how to get through that or to overcome any shortcomings in your applications.

Um, so definitely if you end up in that situation or you’re in that situation now do look for other resources. College of medicine is a great resource. Um, if you’re looking for that sort of help. Um, and then, um, so yeah, that would be my 2 cents. And kind of going into the next question. Um, would you say, um, Stanford’s environment is very competitive and then [00:37:00] also what was another key point to why Stanford was your top.

Okay. Yeah. So I would say to the first question, no, I’m not that people aren’t trying to like, do their absolute best and you know, like go for what they want, but as for competing with other students in each other and in classes, I haven’t seen that honestly at all. Um, people were generally like very collaborative.

Um, our curves here are pretty generous. It’s not like they’re restricting the like number of people who get A’s like the top, like, I dunno, five people in the class or anything. Um, so people were pretty open about like working together, sharing, collaborating, um, yeah, not as super, super like toxic and competitive environment at all.

Um, the second question on why I really wanted to go to Stanford, um, I’d say another, like another key point there. Um, I’d say also like just, um, being queer. I wanted to be somewhere where, like I knew there’d be like a strong queer community in Stanford’s definitely. A place for that. [00:38:00] Um, we have like queer theme housing.

We have like so many events, like a great community here. And like for me, especially coming from a place where like I did not have that, um, that’s what I was looking for when I was like choosing schools and, um, you know, ultimately a big other factor of why I chose, um, Y. Yes. And when you’re looking at schools, you can find out more about like their resource centers and support groups, as well as clubs to see what sort of community they have a great way to find out about a school’s community, or if they’re competitive or cutthroat is really to ask the students cause most admissions officers, aren’t going to share that off the bat.

They’re going to put in the best light students will give you the real insight information and especially asking students about your particular major can be helpful or the majors or programs that you’re interested in just because different programs may have different cultures engineering programs.

And pre-med tend to be a little bit more cutthroat than the humanities, in my opinion. Um, it really just depends on where you’re at and what you’re studying. A large schools do tend to be. [00:39:00] Large research goals do tend to be a bit more on the competitive side then, um, liberal arts or small colleges. So really consider that.

But again, everyone’s experience is different. It’s really good to just get a broad sense of what the community is like. And if you are looking for those different resources and support centers, I believe we will be doing a webinar on, um, what, um, resources marginalized students can find on campus. And there are some blogs about it.

So if you’re really trying to figure out what the culture is like, if you’re going to feel safe or supported or find community at a place, um, that those resources are helpful and then make sure to really do that research and ask students about the quality of those resources. Cause schools may say that they have something and it may not be that great or structured.

So, um, yeah. Uh, and going on to the next question, some students tend to ask this, so, um, what are like some pros and cons of Stanford?[00:40:00]

I’ll start with the pros. I’d say first super, super cliche, but, um, meeting just the students and people here is like a big like plus and like reason to come, everyone has like a different story. Like you find all the people, I don’t know, like where they’re like a nationally basket weaving champion or something like that, you know, like people have crazy stories, like personal family experiences.

Like there’s just so much to learn about everybody. Um, another pro um, this is like, okay. Also like slightly cliche, but it makes such a big difference. Like having just a nice weather and being able to like study for your finals, like out on the Google, like in the sign, um, compared to like, I don’t really cramming instantly tiny library room or something like it is a game changer.

I will say that like people say that will say whether is like, kind of don’t talk about it or like, it makes a difference. And I’m saying, um, and then as for con um, [00:41:00] I’d say why it’s like the food. We had great food posts or pre COVID on. So I actually took a gap year before, or I took a gap year, last year.

So I was on campus my freshman year. Um, but I think we’re like slowly recovering, but the food here is in our dining halls is like not great. We do have great food in the bay area, but, um, that’s one thing to know. Another, I would say is like being in Palo Alto, it is a small town where they close to San Francisco, but this is like a small and very privileged town.

It’s like expensive to go out. Um, and there’s not much of like, like a nightlife off campus, if that’s what you’re looking for. Um, and then I’d say like the only other like small pro is. And this is earth or sorry, like small, like I guess pro and con is, uh, you know, California has a culture of like a very like positive, like outgoing hobby culture, but that’s a pro in that when you’re feeling happy and when you’re feeling like you’re in a good place, like it’s great, you know, it [00:42:00] feels great, but, um, definitely like, it can be hard when you’re like going through like a difficult time or like you have like finals, pine 11, you still feel like you have to like smile and like be on.

Um, that can definitely be tough, but it’s sort of like a, it’s like a double-edged sword. It has its pros and cons. It’s sort of just like a California barrier thing. Definitely. And kind of going off of that Stanford experience. Can you talk a bit, maybe more about the roommate and living and just student life experience?

Yes. So freshmen year, um, you will most likely be in a dorm with all freshmen and a double, um, and you are not expected to choose a roommate and back not allow to, so, um, everyone’s like paired or gets a roommate pairing based on like a form that you fill out. This is done. Like, it can be like really, really good.

Most of the time it can also be like really random. So they might pick like the two McKenzie’s in the dorm and like put them together or they’ll pick the two people who are like how the similar sleep schedules or like are both interested in rock music. It just depends. [00:43:00] Um, and then after that we have a lot of different housing options.

So, um, you can choose to live in like all software house in your second year. You can live on our like row, um, and like Greek housing or, and a self-operated house, which is essentially like a row house. That’s not Greek, but has like a chef and operates more like upperclassmen housing unit. We also have cooperative style housing, which is.

Like a house where people that all the students like cook and clean for the house together, it’s like really, really great community. Um, and then for where I’m living right now, I have two great roommates. Um, I live in an apartment with, or an on-campus apartment. Um, we have two rooms or two bedrooms, two bathrooms.

So it’s like, honestly, like it’s a great living situation. Um, and yeah, I’d say like in general, like the, the housing here is like really, really good. Um, you will have your random roommate freshman year. Most people like are become really good friends with a roommate. [00:44:00] Uh, and then, yeah, th the sort of like community you form, like through your freshmen dorms keeps lasting on throughout your college experience.

Um, a lot of people are still friends with like their freshmen friends and, um, that they met through their dorm. Um, and housing sort of like spreads out more as you like grow older, but just in general, it’s like always on campus just cause like pull off those expensive campuses, big, like. Uh, going on to the next question.

How did you share your distinguishing, uh, accomplishments and activities in the application? So they stood out. Did you submit a resume or share this information in your essays, et cetera? So I, I did not share a resume. I use only the common application and I used the like honors, uh, I forgot what it’s called the honors or achievement section.

Um, whereas where you can list like your top five, um, basically like awards that you’ve gotten. So Alyssa does there, if I had other ones, I would put them like in my extra curriculars activity section where you write about like different things, [00:45:00] different clubs, activities, you’ve been a part of, you can just add a little note, like, you know, like you were the captain of this team or you like qualified for this or something like that.

Um, and. Yeah, I would say like in general, like it’s usually not necessary to include a resume. In fact, I would not generally recommend that, but, um, if you do want to, if you’re interested in art or music or something like that, you can include a performance or supplementary portfolio that sort of works as like, um, a showing of what you’ve done.

Um, on the art side, uh, that adds to your application kind of like somebody like an extra, like. And some schools and programs do require that you submit a portfolio or an audition or both. Um, so if you’re interested in like music or performing arts, they usually require, uh, a port. They usually, I know they require auditions for the most part on some require portfolios.

It just helps with your application, um, resumes aren’t generally required in the application process. I did [00:46:00] submit a resume just because there was some activities that I want to explain a bit more. So that can be a good option, uh, essays, the additional information section and a few other places and letters of recommendation are good places to get that extra information in about your activities that you may not be able to explain as well.

There are other webinars that you can find on our website at, uh, college, or go to and go to the webinars, um, to figure out more information about that, uh, going onto the next question. Um, So a student is interested in majoring in computer science, but they were told not to choose it because it’s very popular and hard to stand out.

There are a few popular majors, like psychology, computer science, engineering, depending on the school. Um, would you recommend that, um, what do you recommend they do? Hm. See, this is like, um, I can’t necessarily give a recommendation without knowing more about, you know, your personal background, um, [00:47:00] speaking to the student.

Um, but I would say like, yes, it can make it like slightly more difficult to stand out if you are applying for a really popular major, like computer science. But in that sense, if you have a very personal story and the things that you’ve been doing in high school make sense most for a computer science major, she was computer science.

Um, if that’s your story and that’s a narrative that you have, and that’s where your interests lie genuinely, like I would still choose computer science, um, you know, for Stanford’s application. You can select three, I think majors that you’re interested in, like first through third, you can rank them. So, um, with us, like it’s not really that you have to like commit to computer science that you apply for computer science or anything like that.

Um, I think also like with Stanford, it’s like less of a, maybe less of like an important factor that if you’re applying to like a school where if you, you know, apply for computer science, you have to be in the program. And you’re like one of the members that were selected for the program for Stanford, you’re just admitted to the school.

And if you want to [00:48:00] commit to computer science later, or you want to switch out, um, you’re, you basically, you don’t have to declare a major until the end of your sophomore year. And most basically nobody, um, really like does until their sophomore year. So there’s a lot of switching people who don’t really like, I think if you like looked at what people applied with and what they’re actually doing, it’s like very, very different.

So, um, I’d say they said more about, about like what, what you’re about in your story then, like, Um, you know, maybe the difficulty of the major of getting accepted, just cause like, it’s not really, like you’re applying to the major, you’re just applying to the school and kind of going off of that. Um, from the opposite end, another students saying that they’re interested in psychology, but they didn’t have the time or opportunity to further that interest aside from dual enrollment classes or Google searches, um, they don’t know how to show their interest through extracurricular activities or volunteer work.

And so they’re recommend, they’re asking, how would you recommend they go about, um, developing their brand? Oh, that’s fine. Um, [00:49:00] like if this, if speaking to the student again, if you’re like younger, you have like a few more years before you’re applying, um, definitely look into your area, um, looking even remotely and see if you can like maybe.

Speak to someone who’s like doing psychology research. Um, even if you’re not going to like, get like a research internship, just having that experience, like connecting with people in the community and like seeing where other opportunities like is super important. Um, if you also have time, like another thing I would look into is like maybe founding like a psychology organization or club or something like that, um, within your school.

Um, and then if you’re like more like approaching the application season and you’re like a junior or something, um, I would say like dig deep and write about it in your essays. Like what, from your, from the very start of your childhood to like, up to now, what has it built your interest in psychology and where do you see yourself like working in it?

Um, how has there been any, like. [00:50:00] Really deep, like family thing or like personal thing, that’s the way you want to like, um, study psychology more and, you know, how’s that like, sort of like, what is the breakdown of like, what you’re interested in psychology is and like, why do you want to pursue it? Um, I’d say was like the big questions that you have to like hit and I would put that in your essays, for sure.

For sure. Um, and yeah, I know honestly, like for the purposes of an application, like the major that you apply to, if you’ve been doing, I don’t know, like chemistry lab work, your entire high school experience, and you’ve just not want to switch to psychology. It’s honestly totally valid to say, to just write that chemistry as your like first choice of major, maybe put like psychology as a second.

Um, you know, I would say like work on extracting, like the narrative that best fits what you’ve been doing and where you are. And some students made, think about trying to game the system with that. So picking like an absurd or obscure major, um, [00:51:00] that normally applies to, to try and help their chances.

Colleges can see a connection between like your activities, courses and life experience and the major you pick it doesn’t always need to be connected, but you really do need to show interest in that major to help better your chances of getting into a program, especially if it’s popular or very niche and only has it an or selective rather.

Um, but even if you don’t have those clubs, um, directly correlated, you can still, um, think about other things you’ve done. Um, there are webinars we have on doing a passion project. So if you want to watch those and learn about some activities or programs that you can do, um, in order to build your application, even in the last minute, that could be a good place to look to help build that sort of connection.

Um, even things that are like vaguely connected, like kinda if you’re like volunteering at a, um, I don’t know, an old folks home, uh, that isn’t really psychology. It is more on the end of helping people, but maybe talking about like your experience, [00:52:00] helping people and why that led you into psychology.

Something that is spit balling, but you got nothing needs to be directly correlated, but it can help. Uh, okay. Going on to the next question, we’ll just, um, broaden the, um, annoy. There was another question before, um, so the student was asking if you contacted anyone from, um, contacted anyone at Stanford while you were in high school.

And if so, um, how did you do that? Yeah, so I’d say like, my main contact was actually, um, my, my freshman year there was a senior, um, who went to Stanford. We both ran cross country, so I knew him and I was like, sort of connected with him throughout high school. Um, my senior year, like I asked him a lot of questions about like applying and, you know, what he would recommend, stuff like that.

Uh, so that was like one sort of contact that I happened into. Um, I also like looked a lot into like Stanford, like with the website, like forums, like YouTube, [00:53:00] just trying to get like a picture of like, you know, what campus was about. And you know, what types of students were there both to like help me in my application, but also to see if I would be like an actually a good fit and more likely to like, enjoy my time at the school.

And if you are interested in contacting students going on campus tours can really help. Uh, you can reach out to students on social media. Uh, most people are pretty nice and we’ll answer some may not answer because you’re a minor, which is the whole thing. Um, so, um, maybe just not answer because they don’t want to, um, so be mindful of that, their privacy, their space, but for the most part, most college students are pretty open.

Um, if you like go to like a club page or some sort of like student re, um, outreach, uh, club, um, Instagram or social media page that can usually, um, give you some people to talk to, or they may do like, um, day in the lives on their live feed. Um, and you [00:54:00] can probably ask your questions there or talk to a student through there.

Um, if you’re interested in reaching out and, um, with the webinar coming to a close, I guess we’ll end on the money side of things. Um, uh, students asking, does Stanford give out scholarships and then just going off of that, can you talk a bit about financial aid? Um, Yeah, for sure. So, um, I super does not give out like merit based scholarships.

We do have a lot of athletic scholarships here. Um, we have a ton of like sports programs. Um, so lots of students are involved in those. Um, and then for financial aid, financial aid is actually quite generous here. Um, like I’d say like, I forgot what the exact limit is, but if your parents are making under a specific amount, you or your aid will be like totally covered.

Um, and then from like a range above that, it’s like quite generous on how, on how much they give. Um, yeah. And then for scholarships, like they will accept any scholarships that you have, like [00:55:00] outside of the school. But, um, no, there are no like merit based scholarships, but there are programs if you’re looking for something like, for example, like QuestBridge is a great program that will give you like a full ride.

Essentially, if you are matched to Stanford, that’s kind of like a Stanford scholarship. Um,

Yes. And the limit is if you’re under, um, if your family income is under, um, 150,000, um, your tuition is covered. Uh, and then, uh, tuition room and board are covered if your family’s income is below 75,000 a year. Um, and that’s from the financial aid side of the website, and then most top schools like the IVs or Stanford or any other, like really big name schools, aren’t going to give out merit based scholarships, which is based on your grades, GPA awards, you’ve gotten any accomplishments you’ve had.

Uh, most of them just aren’t giving out merit scholarships, they’re giving out needs based financial aid, which is based on your family’s income. There are different types of needs based financial aid. There are other webinars on that if you want more [00:56:00] information. Um, but yeah, so that can be a factor. In your decision-making, if you are in a middle income, family, paying for school is still possible with needs based financial aid.

Um, merit based financial aid may be a little bit better, um, depending on your family’s income, just because it’s based off of your own accolades, um, for needs based schools, your GPA and merits are really just getting you into the school and then your family’s need is getting you the money. Um, yeah. And so outside scholarships may help with that.

Um, so yeah. And then going on to the next question, um, a student was asking about, um, is it better to apply early to Stanford? Um, I like better in the sense of like a higher admissions possibility, like maybe slightly by the end of the day, like view RF it for the school, you anticipate her, um, thing that is like pointless period.

Like what, how the [00:57:00] admissions problems works. But like applying early, I think it gives you, like, for me, especially gave me a chance to like focus on my application for Stanford rather than like, you know, like during like the regular admissions decision, like reusing formats for essays, like stuff like that.

Um, I was focused exclusively on Stanford. I was like writing like from the heart really specifically for the school and I had a lot of time to do that. So in that sense, like applying early, we’ll give you like an upper hand and that you would probably submit like a better application. I, I would say like, it does show more demonstrated interest, which can help you get in, but, um, really it comes down to like whether or not you’re a fit for this school.

And I think applying early replying, regular, like that’s still like a yes or no. Um, you know, for, for, regardless of when you apply. Yes. And Stanford offers restrictive early action, meaning, um, and this means different things at different schools. So you really need to look into the school is I’m fine print about their.

[00:58:00] Uh, like requirements or eligibility. Um, so restrictive, early action at Stanford means that you can apply to Stanford early, um, in a non-binding contract, meaning that if you get into Stanford, you do not have to go there if you don’t want to. Um, but then since it’s restricted, that means you cannot apply.

It apply to any other school early, regardless of if it’s just regular early action or early decision, um, there are different types of early. So that’s why they have different names. Early decision means that it’s a binding contract. Um, uh, which means that if you get accepted, you have to go there. The only way to get out, it’s usually financial aid and that is its own process, which can be a little bit difficult.

So really consider that if financial aid is an important factor for you, um, early action is usually a better option. It means that you can apply to any other schools still, and you are not in a binding contract. We do have more webinars on this. This is sort of the quick version. Uh, and then, um, restrictive, early action can mean different things for different [00:59:00] schools to like Stanford again.

Um, it means you can’t apply anywhere else or at least. So for me, I applied early decision to Cornell, but early decision at Cornell isn’t doesn’t have any, like, you can’t apply anywhere else early, just not early decisions. So I applied to Howard university early action also. So I applied to two schools early.

Those were the only schools I applied to. I got in before the next round of applications were done. So really getting those application notes can really help with not having a stress during your senior year, but you got to make sure that you’re ready for that. And going on to that next, uh, thing to sorta end off the webinar and you can just end it off in general.

So one student is asking, how early should you start? Should they start their application? And then just any Stanford application advice. Yeah. So for the timing of like, when you started your application, um, from my experience, I started writing like the summer of late summer before my senior year, but, you know, everyone is different.

I’d say like, for me, I like to spend a lot of time just like thinking on my [01:00:00] feet in my free time about like what I want to write about and then spend a shorter amount of time, actually just getting the words onto, you know, a da. But, um, people will start as early as their juniors or like, um, junior Springs, like really like whenever works for you and your writing process, I’d say is the best time to start.

Um, if you spend more time eating, maybe like start eating earlier and give yourself plenty of time to write and edit and go through those rounds. Um, and then Stanford oblation vice in general, I would say the one thing I’d say is don’t be afraid to be creative and quirky. Um, like for example, just to.

Give something like, uh, concretely, we have a question that asks you to describe yourself in five words. Um, most people will use like five adjectives, which is totally valid. And a lot of the students that go here did right by badges. Um, but you know, this is also a place where like, like I wrote something completely random and just out there, I think I wrote like extra hot pumpkin spice latte, which is like five words.

And that’s just like what I felt like fit my [01:01:00] personality and like, um, what I wanted to represent about myself. And I think just going off from that, like, especially in the Stanford application, you have a lot of questions that are short, where you can like really display like different parts of your personality and don’t be afraid to do so.

Like, don’t be afraid to show people or show the admissions officers like who you really are, what your interests are, because at the end of the day, they know you’re not like, you know, just a test score, just like someone who like does this specific activity. Like you are a full person, you’re a high school.

They’re like have your innocence. Don’t be afraid to share them as long as they’re appropriate and reasonable and all of that. Yes and make sure they’re authentic too. So don’t just copy and paste that you’re hot poking that, that that’s, I wasn’t even thinking that outside the box. Um, yes. And, um, with, um, the applications, um, in general, um, you’ll have your personal statement for the most part, which is its own standalone essay that goes to all the schools you applied to, depending on what platform you’re using.

There are more webinars on this [01:02:00] again. Um, and then, um, you also have supplementals, um, supplementals or school specific essay. So Stanford, um, this past admissions cycle had three short response, which were like 250 words asking different questions, including that question about the roommate. And then also it had five short response questions, um, which were like a few words, like less than 50 words each.

And they were asking a broad range of questions. Um, you, you can start preparing for your, um, personal statement a bit earlier. So like summer, junior year is also. Rising senior year is when I started also. And that’s a good time, um, which am I call it. Um, but with the supplements, those don’t usually get released until August when the common app and all the other application portals open.

So you probably won’t be able to see it until then some schools do really so bit earlier. So if you want it to prepare for those schools specific ones, maybe just start thinking about some things about yourself. Cause the questions are broad enough to just reflect on yourself and have an answer [01:03:00] for it, but you may not be able to start writing them until the applications release.

Uh, okay. And then any last thing to close us out? Um, I would say like, yeah, college by college is a great resource. Please feel free to reach out to me, to Mackenzie. Um, we have a ton of like amazing advisors and yeah, also I would say like college admissions seems like tough and it’s just like, you know, big crapshoot, but um, just think about it as.

Who you are and what you want to present about yourself. Um, and you know, what your sort of like story and interests are like really deep dig deep into just yourself, rather than thinking about like you and this gigantic process. And yeah, I think that’s something that helped me and I hope I can help you all too.

Thank you everyone for coming out tonight and thank you to our panelists Henry. So that is the end of the webinar, and we hope that you, um, had a great time. Um, and we had a really great time telling you about. Uh, Stanford and admissions. Uh, here’s the rest of our [01:04:00] March series, where we’re talking about increasing your admissions odds.

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